All adjectives reveal scales? - SOLWorld2024-03-28T19:11:03Zhttp://solworld.ning.com/forum/topics/all-adjectives-reveal-scales?commentId=2102269%3AComment%3A18645&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi KAtalin, thanks for the in…tag:solworld.ning.com,2009-12-21:2102269:Comment:187012009-12-21T10:53:21.749ZHannes Couvreurhttp://solworld.ning.com/profile/HannesCouvreur
Hi KAtalin, thanks for the invitation. Going to check out whether Bucharest is an option later this week. Certainly looks promising.<br />
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I don't have an example yet, but I will post one later on. One set-up I have in mind is when somebody says "that's a good idea". Good in comparison to? Or "that's boring", boring in comparison to? etc... Will get back soon.<br />
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Thanks for the reply and the input. Have a great Christmas and a inspirational New Year.
Hi KAtalin, thanks for the invitation. Going to check out whether Bucharest is an option later this week. Certainly looks promising.<br />
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I don't have an example yet, but I will post one later on. One set-up I have in mind is when somebody says "that's a good idea". Good in comparison to? Or "that's boring", boring in comparison to? etc... Will get back soon.<br />
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Thanks for the reply and the input. Have a great Christmas and a inspirational New Year. Hi Hannes!
hey, you do not j…tag:solworld.ning.com,2009-12-17:2102269:Comment:186582009-12-17T22:32:20.473ZPaolo Ternihttp://solworld.ning.com/profile/PaoloTerni
Hi Hannes!<br />
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hey, you do not just "read" Wittgenstein - you savor it! :) But you can appreciate him the most if you got trapped in language, like I was as a student of philosophy. Let's put it this way: you are healthy, you take an aspirin... can you appreciate its effects? Guess not. But if you are sicky... well, then you can appreciate the aspirin!<br />
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Re NLPers and big words, what I mean has been masterfully expressed by Mark McKergow in this article:…
Hi Hannes!<br />
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hey, you do not just "read" Wittgenstein - you savor it! :) But you can appreciate him the most if you got trapped in language, like I was as a student of philosophy. Let's put it this way: you are healthy, you take an aspirin... can you appreciate its effects? Guess not. But if you are sicky... well, then you can appreciate the aspirin!<br />
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Re NLPers and big words, what I mean has been masterfully expressed by Mark McKergow in this article: <a href="http://www.sfwork.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=6d2" target="_blank">http://www.sfwork.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=6d2</a><br />
Hint: it has to do with Occam's razor :)<br />
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Ciao!!! Hi Hannes
Not a Wittgenstein…tag:solworld.ning.com,2009-12-17:2102269:Comment:186562009-12-17T18:34:03.092ZKatalin Hankovszkyhttp://solworld.ning.com/profile/KatalinHankovszky
Hi Hannes<br />
Not a Wittgenstein fan as such, you can catch up with his ideas probably in <a href="http://solworld.ning.com/events/solworld-international">Bucharest</a> at the SOL conference - not he himself but from those who still alive VERY GOOD ONES will discusse his ideas from an SF angle.<br />
And: it happens to me sometimes that I ask clients to describe what they are talking about when they use the adjective ‘positive’. I tell them, I want to have a more specific picture, I would like to see, in…
Hi Hannes<br />
Not a Wittgenstein fan as such, you can catch up with his ideas probably in <a href="http://solworld.ning.com/events/solworld-international">Bucharest</a> at the SOL conference - not he himself but from those who still alive VERY GOOD ONES will discusse his ideas from an SF angle.<br />
And: it happens to me sometimes that I ask clients to describe what they are talking about when they use the adjective ‘positive’. I tell them, I want to have a more specific picture, I would like to see, in which relation they put this issue that they say positive.<br />
I must confess I can’t imagine your idea of scaling in case of other adjectives. Do you have an example when you did this?<br />
In case of comparatives I sometimes ask skaling question, yes, and I recognize, it’s not what you are asking about :) ) Thanks Paolo.
Not a Wittgens…tag:solworld.ning.com,2009-12-17:2102269:Comment:186482009-12-17T12:43:51.930ZHannes Couvreurhttp://solworld.ning.com/profile/HannesCouvreur
Thanks Paolo.<br />
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Not a Wittgenstein fan as such, maybe I should catch up with his writings though (although the shelves 'to read' are already poking my eyes out :)).<br />
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What's the deal with NLPers and big words? Fill me in. :)
Thanks Paolo.<br />
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Not a Wittgenstein fan as such, maybe I should catch up with his writings though (although the shelves 'to read' are already poking my eyes out :)).<br />
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What's the deal with NLPers and big words? Fill me in. :) Hi Hannes,
I believe the "in…tag:solworld.ning.com,2009-12-17:2102269:Comment:186452009-12-17T11:04:48.876ZPaolo Ternihttp://solworld.ning.com/profile/PaoloTerni
Hi Hannes,<br />
I believe the "in comparison to what?" is a classic NLP question that is part of the "meta-model" structure.<br />
The meta-model addresses ways in which language can be confusing, in this case because a referential index has been unspecified or deleted from the communication.<br />
Nothing new for Wittgenstein's fans, but hey NLPers love big words! :)<br />
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I agree with you, a scale can be a useful way to make this concept even clearer.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Paolo
Hi Hannes,<br />
I believe the "in comparison to what?" is a classic NLP question that is part of the "meta-model" structure.<br />
The meta-model addresses ways in which language can be confusing, in this case because a referential index has been unspecified or deleted from the communication.<br />
Nothing new for Wittgenstein's fans, but hey NLPers love big words! :)<br />
<br />
I agree with you, a scale can be a useful way to make this concept even clearer.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Paolo